Tuesday, Jan. 29th, 11 a.m. to noon Central (9-10 Pacific) on NoLiesRadio.org (then archived here a few hours after broadcast).
Dr. Nicholas Kollerstrom, a history of science Ph.D. with a specialty in chemistry, is the author of the best book on the 7/7 London bombings, Terror on the Tube. (Watch the 7/7 video Kollerstrom and Farrell Are Dead.)
Today, Nick presents what he says is breakthrough evidence supporting his contention that the claim that Nazi gas chambers were used for mass executions with Zyclon-B (cyanide gas) are not true. According to mainstream historians as well as revisionists, Zyclon B was indisputably used in de-lousing chambers in German concentration camps to prevent outbreaks of insect-borne typhus. Nick and other revisionist argue that what they call the myth of mass-execution gas chambers stems from these de-lousing chambers, which ironically were used to keep the inmates alive, not to kill them. (Yes, very large numbers of inmates died, and some were killed, in other ways.)
Nick is the principal behind the new website http://www.whatreallyhappened.info/
Nick’s team has just published, for the very first time, the original British Intelligence wartime decrypts that decoded the daily German Police messages detailing concentration camp inmate counts. With the exception of two footnotes in a single book and one other “paper”, these entire archives have otherwise been completely ignored by mainstream historians.
Was the Zyklon used to save lives, not take them?
Is Nick right? I don’t know…but what I do know is that the people who fired him from his job at the University of London had better contact me and come on my show to explain, using logic and evidence, why he is not just wrong, but so egregiously and obviously wrong that he deserved to lose his academic position.
Nicholas Kollerstrom, PhD, has two history of science degrees, one from Cambridge 1968, plus a PhD from London, 1995. He was an honorary member of staff of University College, London for 11 years. He co-edited The Case Against War (Spokesman, comprising the CND legal arguments against the Iraq war) and then co-organised the Belgrano Inqury in 1986, publishing The Unnecessary War as its proceedings in 1998. Nick risked his reputation as a first-rate historian of science, and got kicked out of University College, London, by researching the evidence for Nazi gassings in WWII death camps – and finding that evidence underwhelming. His findings are illegal in many European countries.
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| When the Zyclon-B shows up, the death count goes down. How odd. |
When you look into the Holocaust you are treading on what I call is-isn't territory. Is a degree from Harvard or Yale impressive? It is and it isn't. Admission to these schools is reserved for the best and the brightest and then again not. Sub atomic physicists are in is-isn't territory when they model their speculations on metaphysics as they are wont to do: charm, strange forces that sort of thing. The Germans have a strange national philosophy now and as you know have quite a lot of influence in the EU. They won't tolerate Scientology because they have outlawed undemocratic organizations and many think Scientology to be a cult and less than democratic. Ostensibly, their argument against historical revisionism is that it could be seen to lend support or credence retrospectively to the Nazis as being a maligned organization which is anathema to their current umwelt.
Can we tease out the the motivations for disallowing Holocaust questioning? Well, we can and we can't. It seems that the motivations for protecting the story is on some level genuine. I get the feeling, and it is purely subjective, that many Holocaust deniers are anti-Semites and they are part of the cadre that blames everything on "the Jews." I get a strong feeling that these anti-Semites have nothing but contempt for what Finkelstein calls the Holocaust Industry and that this contempt runs so high that were there not a Holocaust, there certainly should be.
I wish I could remember what they were called but I have become aware of what I will call threshold numbers. We know that merchants use numbers as "tells." A twenty percent off sale for the initiated can tell you that that is the cost that the merchant will have to pay to warehouse the item until the next season. Retail mark up is around fifty percent so a forty percent off sale is approaching the cost of the item. There is the famous and ubiquitous $9.99 to represent ten dollars and is supposedly a psychological manipulation. Anything ending in less then a 9 in a store is often a signal that it is a close out like $8.84. These threshold numbers have their place historically as well. I read somewhere that the 6,000,000 number had occurred (like a test drive) before during WWI, I think, and 9/11 and Pearl Harbor have reached the same threshold of close to 3,000. Supposedly these threshold numbers have been tested in focus groups and vetted for the effect that they have. It is an interesting thought at any rate.
Greater than even questioning The Holocaust, is questioning the "holiness" of WWII per se. No one denies that WWI was caused by the rotting aristocracy playing god. Skip WWII and conventional wisdom will state that Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, and more and more Afghanistan were wars of empire. But WWII, that was a holy war and in spite of all evidence to the contrary you can't get around that. Hiroshima and Nagasaki were not genocide missions they are seen as life saving assaults! If the Japs hadn't surrendered we would have lost a million (threshold number) allied lives.
Dear Dr. Barrett,
You are a great resource and fighter for truth, but I really wish you could learn some skepticism regarding the Holocaust. I mean, you do take the time to read and respond to some of my e-mails, which is more than "stars" like Richard Gage would ever do. You probably get a lot of e-mails from people, which take up your time, so I don't want to send too many to you.
But recently you've been writing about Josef Mengele. You displayed a photo allegedly depicting Mengele involved in some bizarre, torturous experiment on someone, and I guess the point of it was to support the Holocaust narrative.
I have no idea what the photograph is about, and I've learned over the years to be completely skeptical of every single Holocaust claim, to the point of 99 percent certainty that they're all complete nonsense dreamed up by fanatical racists who want to control the world. So when it came to the Mengele photo and whether it proves there was a Holocaust, I decided to look up what Eric Hunt or Friedrich Paul Berg have to say about Mengele.
And so I found a nice piece by Eric Hunt on his website. The gist of his article is to quote Irene Zisblatt, one of the main stars of Steven Spielberg's phony film, The Last Days, concerning experiments and tattoo-removals conducted by the diabolical Dr. Mengele. Now, Irene Zisblatt is the lady who claims to have escaped a gas-chamber execution because the gas chamber was jam-packed that day, and she got stuck in the door. And her story about her experience with Dr. Mengele is equally ridiculous.
Now the thing that gets me is, well, obviously liars will exist, so just because someone makes up a story about a meeting with Dr. Mengele doesn't prove that ALL stories about him are false. But the it occurs to me that, if Mengele really had performed all those evil experiments, then the REAL, TRUTHFUL survivors would sound the alarm about Irene Zisblatt's obvious falsehoods so as to not have their own credibility destroyed. They would be outraged that someone like Irene Zisblatt was ruining the foundations of their own truth-telling and messing things up.
But no! She is a respected star of the Holocaust. No Holocaust survivor complains about her and says she's lying. And my obvious thought is, why should they, since they're also lying? Why should they, since the whole "Dr. Mengele was an evil doctor who tortured people with weird experiments" story is completely fake? I mean, that's the conclusion I reach. If Dr. Mengele really had tortured people, the true Holocaust survivors would be complaining about Irene Zisblatt. So, therefore, "Dr. Mengele" belongs in the same category as shrunken heads, human skin lampshades and Santa Claus.
IRENE ZISBLATT WAS ONE OF THE MAIN STARS OF SPIELBERG'S FILM, AND NO ONE'S COMPLAINING ABOUT HER. THE HOLOCAUST IS A HOAX.
Anyway, here's the link to Eric Hunt's article that I found.
http://www.holocaustdenier.com/mengele-give-them-the-injection-i-mean-the-lethal-one/
Kevin,
I was thinking about your suggestion that the jews abandon Palestine and move to Germany and set up shop. The fact that some people have to be afraid to visit Germany or speak their minds there indicates that your suggestion has already been implemented.
Gute Farht, as they say in Germany prior to travel — and be careful what you say!
-JB
Holy trinity!
Another good show > i really liked the wrap up
-Ed R.
I don't understand why the revisionists consistently miss the point. The Jewish Holocaust of the 20th century is a moral lesson, irrelevant of the nit-picking facts behind it. It really doesn't matter if zyclon-b was used as a mass killing agent or if the Jews were worked to death or pushed into pits and machined gun to death.
It's all totally irrelevant to the lesson, which is mass persecutin based on race or religion is fundamentally wrong and needs to be left in the dustbin of history. Who fucking cares if they were gassed to death or not? Does it delegitimize the lesson?
I agree with the statement "persecution based on race or religion is wrong." But I don't think that is the main lesson drawn by the Nazi Holocaust story. The real lesson has been: "Americans and Zionists are the good guys, and they have the right to kill, torture, and do whatever is necessary to destroy their evil enemies."
Since World War II, the US has killed at least ten million people in what William Blum calls "the American holocaust." And the Zionists have committed endless slow-motion-genocide in Palestine. These crimes are justified by the false black vs. white, good vs. evil myth of World War II. That myth is a lie; the allies were in many ways worse war criminals than the axis. The story of the intentional, meticulously planned mass gassing of six million Jews is what keeps the good-vs.-evil myth of World War II going.
Saying that "it doesn't matter if the story of the murder of millions in gas chambers is a lie" is a lot like saying "it doesn't matter whether the WTC came down in controlled demolition, because that just means the evil Muslims killed the victims by explosives rather than hijackings."
If indeed the story of the gas chambers is a lie, it calls the whole holocaust narrative into question. If we have been convinced of the existence of the gas chambers on such scanty evidence, could we have been convinced that there was a meticulous plan to exterminate the Jews, or that millions rather than hundreds of thousands died, or that the deaths were from planned murders rather than from disease and starvation, on equally scanty evidence?
We might even ask: Is Nick right in claiming that the entire Jewish population of German-controlled territories was only 3 million? If so, how do we get 4 million registered, German-government-paid "holocaust survivors" along with 6 million victims (not to mention millions of unpaid, unregistered survivors)?
In short, if the gas chambers story is proven false, the entire sacred story of the Holocaust is likely to collapse.
Why doesn't this commenter "get it"?
The commenter is defending him- or herself against the consequences of facing this issue – and risking being fired, jailed, rendered unemployable, and/or called horrible names.
I know this from personal experience. I too used to say "it doesn't matter whether it was gas chambers or whatever." I wasn't fully aware of it at the time, but looking back, I realize that I was saying that as a way of keeping the whole issue at arm's length. I was like my colleagues at the University of Wisconsin-Madison who all responded to my remarks about 9/11 with more or less the same line: "I don't want to look into it because I'm afraid it might be true."
Bottom line: OF COURSE IT MATTERS WHETHER OR NOT THERE WERE GAS CHAMBERS. The fact that you won't allow yourself to see this should motivate you to do some very deep self-examination on this issue.
great reply kevin.
like you i've shifted in my perception on the specifics of WWII/holocaust (or at least have strong informed doubts, and haven't bothered to get a firm opinion). and somewhat like you, "getting" 9/11, eventually led me to fact-based questions about key specifics of WWII (and my father is of polish jewish descent, born in a DP camp in germany in 1949— luckily went to the US and not nutty israel!!).
the truth is what we need, on all things. i'd say we have more hope with 9/11 than WWII revisionism, and 9/11 is more important, but WWII deserves a fair hearing….
however, i largely avoid WWII, cause for the average person i am already promoting "unbelievable" information. if i hit them with major lies on WWII, on top of 9/11, it is a double punch, when most can't take either one…..
glad you touch on WWII, but there is a question of "strategy" for the larger movement for 9/11 truth when it comes to WWII info (not you, glad you and others know no bounds). i think i'll just stay away from WWII with most all people, except when i get those really chill and openminded (or highly properly informed) types…. but your average person, i try to hit them with controlled demo, anthrax info, and other stuff, and can't put another load on a person, already in overload….
~thanks
[in this area, i'd like another show on USS liberty sometime, or maybe you can do a sweeping show with people who can touch on the long history of israeli false flags, and even suspected false flags]
have you addressed the fakery of the most famous holocaust photo yet?
http://winstonsmithministryoftruth.blogspot.com/2013/01/the-most-famous-holocaust-photo-fraud.html?m=1&zx=1540ce1ae8889e35
ive tried sending it to fetzer, as a homage to his Oswald work, ( which was published (i just checked) in Joseph Farrells 2010 BOOK "LBJ, .."
. an author who you BOTH NEED TO HAVE ON, he is so profound/diligent/outside the box; believe me, you're going to be wanting more… start at bottom/ beginning it is a priceless education on mp3..
http://www.thebyteshow.com/JosephPFarrell.html
all my emails to him (just FETZ) get
sent..3 seconds later…not sent
but figured you would be interested as well.
BTW…
so did santilli take his ball and go home or did AFR show him the door? hes been 86ed from any trace there.Seriously, Kevin- .the EMBARRASSMENT I FELT, JUST HEARING SANTILLIS traveling festival of ignorance !
It was Numbing!
K thanx, kev you're the best! Plz let jim know of this also.. xoxoxoxo-m3rcuryj3n
have you addressed the fakery of the most famous holocaust photo yet?
http://winstonsmithministryoftruth.blogspot.com/2013/01/the-most-famous-holocaust-photo-fraud.html?m=1&zx=1540ce1ae8889e35
ive tried sending it to fetzer, as a homage to his Oswald work, ( which was published (i just checked) in Joseph Farrells 2010 BOOK "LBJ, .."
. an author who you BOTH NEED TO HAVE ON, he is so profound/diligent/outside the box; believe me, you're going to be wanting more… start at bottom/ beginning it is a priceless education on mp3..
http://www.thebyteshow.com/JosephPFarrell.html
all my emails to him (just FETZ) get
sent..3 seconds later…not sent
but figured you would be interested as well.
BTW…
so did santilli take his ball and go home or did AFR show him the door? hes been 86ed from any trace there.Seriously, Kevin- .the EMBARRASSMENT I FELT, JUST HEARING SANTILLIS traveling festival of ignorance !
It was Numbing!
K thanx, kev you're the best! Plz let jim know of this also..